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Mar. 28th, 2011 | 06:12 am
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is there a reason to take this journal toward somewhere else? i'm lost on what purpose it serves for other than being the go-to place to share news or gossip about this girl, but i haven't come across any updates third-hand or otherwise that have me give a shit, to be honest. maybe you guys still want it here and like the idea of keeping it here even if at the moment there is a dry spell, but i'll take any suggestions or ideas to make it more majority-pleasing if i agree with it. i'm not trying to evolve away from the formula or franchise this into something else, but rather to offer something you guys would enjoy. if not, don't worry about it. it doesn't have to be here anymore either. i don't think any real person cares about her. even so i can keep it here just for the sake of remaining.

any ideas or way to stimulate conversation, i'm all for it if it makes people happier about this nothing livejournal. if nobody cares or even prefers, i can take it down. i don't get much out of it if i just kept it for myself, but my lolita bride rolls her eyes when her eyes catch the url as she's scrolling through my firefox bookmarks and asks me when i'm going to take it off. i have a life on the internet, though it's a lot less than it was years ago, but i've always tried my best to be low-profile. at the same time, i've grown to meet a handful of people that have become friends i can actually converse with and foster closeness, chill with them at their homes, meet their families, etc. although a couple of them less so because of my shyness which makes me feel like an asshole (some of them really do try to reach out and get me a little closer in some sort of conversation but i hesitate). i'm on facebook although i don't have very many friends at all, i tried twitter but lost interest, although i just created a new one to try again. i'm taking advice and trying to be a little more connectable, baby steps with the internet, and into real life. i'm not a hermit or too much of an awkward geek but my lolita bride swears i could have a much more of a social life if i tried. i really need it to get away from other personal problems, get my head straight, get away from dependencies, live a more clean and fulfilling life. i guess you could say it's kind of a way to rehabilitate, but don't laugh, i'm well-aware this is a very desperate way to go about it. i just don't know another.

i feel like moving away from this oakland g-life someday and go back to la (maybe long beach where i have some old friends), but it would be hard as my bride is pretty young and her parents (against anything i ever thought) somehow mustered enough tolerance to have let her live here with me since the end of summer up to now. oakland is okay but oakland really strangles naivety which is how so many of us, young and not from here, a lot from the suburbs, end up being either these annoying assholes called crustpunks, hipsters (ie: rich kids pretending to be poor patronizing art galleries and shit), or swallowed up by the grimy house show/party scene i tried when i first moved here, and end up slowly but surely finding a stubborn grip on their throat after they dabble in heroin a little too much too often. it gets old so fast especially when it feels like the appeal of oakland is dead. oakland is oakland, i couldn't find myself living across the bridge in the city, and elsewhere in the bay never appealed to me. i guess i'm bored and out of place. i'm only used to living in big cities, urban the better, but i'm bored here. i ended up here out of all places because i took a chance, i felt i was in love with someone that may have loved me too, so i abandoned my comfort and everything else but my clothes and car and it did work out as best i could ever dream being hopelessly in love with a girl that i never tire of when we're constantly, constantly at an arm's length distance from each other at all times. it never tires. now if life could come together for both of us where i can feel i can succeed enough to take care of her the way she deserves, i'll be a little more satisfied with who i am.

shifting away from my personal shit i ramble onward about (it could be the ambien and xanax that didn't do much to help me sleep), that's all i have to say. i'm sorry if it comes across like i'm sneakily finding any excuse to make sure i can get an audience to read my personal nothings, but i hope some of you guys do contribute your opinions, thoughts, degrading comments, about the future and evolution (or lack of) the journal. what is it now? is it what it was a year or two ago? could we make it better some way you think? is it all meaningless now? i delete a lot of things like very personal livejournals i had kept for years or a deviantart i upheld for quite a while without thinking twice about erasing it forever so the end-game solution to just delete all of this wouldn't be a big deal. i really don't know if anyone cares anymore. just let me know i guess, if someone is reading and would comment. i hope all of you are warm and as happiest as life and your will within it will let you be. thank you for giving me some reason to feel like somebody does read and care little things i have to ask or share once in a while. this entire silliness permeating this livejournal still has me smiling either way.

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From: anonymous
Date: Mar. 28th, 2011 02:42 pm (UTC)
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Well, I'm sort of a lurker here, and I did come for the Emily talk originally...but kind of stuck around for the interesting discussions that the Emily stuff sometimes sparked...you know, stuff about Japan, differences in pop culture, the music industry, idols, and just random topics like that.

Japanophiles, weeabooism, and the drive that motivates some people to behave the way Emily did is kind of facisnating in of itself. That was one thing that brought me here. I am fond of Japan and the language myself, but I am somewhat disillusioned by the cultural objectification that goes on in some circles...there others like Emily, and I have seen friends mirror her behavior. So it was an interesting topic to discuss and read about. It has given me some insight.

As for talking about Emily specifically, I don't have any reason to keep up with her. I learned some interesting things and had some laughs reading this journal. But I think it should really come down to whether or not you personally want to continue maintaining this journal here...and whether or not you see any purpose in it? Maybe you want to this to be personal journal again? Or, I don't know.... But those were personally the reasons why I came here and stuck around to read.

Anyway, I hope that you and your (wife? fiance?) are able to work things out and overcome the challenges that are keeping you two at arms length right now. I can certainly relate to feelings of being shy and having trouble reaching out to people, hesitating, and feeling like an asshole because of it. Even though it is not my intention to be standoffish, or unfriendly, or anything like that. I think I am naturally a more reserved person, and it takes me a while to open up to people. I've just made peace with that as being part of my personality, and have accepted it. Maybe that acceptance alone has allowed me to feel more open and relaxed with people nowadays. I don't know. But when you are fighting with yourself, and feeling upset about it, people sense that turmoil...so sometimes they will interpret that as anger, or an unfriendliness.

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From: raspberrysyrup
Date: Mar. 28th, 2011 11:52 pm (UTC)
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the arms length phrase wasn't a bad thing. i was just saying we are always together wherever we go, wherever we are, and whatever we do. it's surreal to me but it's a happy thing. we have no problems with each other.

i don't know the purpose of this livejournal so i'm laying it on everyone else. the purpose of it was to spite her dad but when that quickly wore out, i left it for you guys. i really don't care about it for myself. i certainly wouldn't turn this into my personal space. but is it up to me to post things more often than rely on things happening? if that's the case i'll do it. i have some time and a mobile phone when i'm not home. i think i had tried before but felt overexposed and perceived like i was fishing for attention for myself. i don't know how you guys see that sort of thing. the apprehension from second-guessing comes from not being used to anything like this... i miss the anonymity of the internet so much.

thanks for your insight because i feel the same as you do about it.

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From: anonymous
Date: Mar. 30th, 2011 02:30 am (UTC)
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Oh sorry, I misunderstood.. it's indeed wonderful to have someone so close in your life like that. Lots of luck to you.

Well, if it makes you feel any better you're still effectively anonymous to me. ;)

But I don't know. I'm really not sure what to tell you. I do think it's a dry spell... there's just not much to gossip about lately, and plus with the tsunami and quake, especially... I kinda don't feel much like talking about people like Emily right now. Though, I'm sure she'll back when things start to settle down.

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Sunfeet

From: dreamstrifer
Date: Mar. 28th, 2011 03:27 pm (UTC)
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I came originally for Emily talk and stayed because of the same reason the above poster did. Interesting conversations did spark and I liked reading them. I think I really have grown past the whole "talk about somebody because they suck" thing since I didn't really miss the posts about her. That isn't to say I'd still read more about her (I guess it's my schadenfreude at work), I'm not THAT mature. ;-) But then again, I've always been more keen on reading personal journals. Maybe it's my peeping tom personality, always curious about other people's lives compared to my own.

For what it's worth, I'm kind of like you, though my only social life seems to be the internet and that's horrifically depressing since the internet is super annoying at times. I really wish I had the courage sometimes to go to an old friend's party, but I flake out and sit at home reading a book and wishing I wasn't such a doofus. I'm not shy, just painfully introverted to the point where even when I'm so lonely I want to scream I still won't socialize even with people I've known for years upon years.

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From: raspberrysyrup
Date: Mar. 29th, 2011 08:58 am (UTC)
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i really relate to the latter part. it's one of those things where you "know" people, you're even still cool with them and you know they'll chill with you, but for whatever reason you just don't go. it's an awkward loop. before i said fuck it and just drove here on a whim for this girl, good lord, my life for those preceding months was just miserable. there's a whole, kind of embarrassing, but maybe endearing heartbreak story to it... i'm still a little bitter about that though!

i wonder if emily is even going back to japan from sxsw? or maybe my timing is wrong. but i wouldn't. nuclear shit, no way, i'd fucking stay away or leave in a heartbeat. i was reading the last surviving chernobyl cleanup worker was quoted as advising the japanese to "run". i have plenty of other places to go around the world... does anyone know if emily is even in japan since the nuclear fallout in fukushima?

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From: anonymous
Date: Mar. 29th, 2011 10:41 am (UTC)
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She's in NY right now. Her dad's facebook confirms that he took her to his place till things blow over in Japan.

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Kate

From: loserology
Date: Mar. 28th, 2011 05:39 pm (UTC)
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Hi Nick

The thing that brought me here was Emily, of course, but it's actually another reason. Not her weeabooism, not even Japan! I'm actually going to admit this here and sorry this is getting personal but it is relevant: my whole life I've had a constant rivalry with my cousin that affects me even to this day. He would treat me like shit and if he did something wrong, it was always my fault so I'd be punished by his parents (my aunt and uncle) and he'd constantly be praised. He could do no wrong and he was perfect. This still continues to this day to some extent. Now I'm a 19 year old full-time student with a part-time job and seeing the world and he is a 21 year old guy who works two low income jobs, failed high school and has a baby with some random fat bitch. How is this relevant? Well, I came here because I enjoy mocking people who fail at life and talking with other like-minded people about it, people who value experience and education, because in my world, I can never be as good as the lowest denominator. I "should" have a baby or I "should" at least have a boyfriend, they say + I feel sometimes. I like to at least know I'm heading in the right direction with my life because I do get unsure of myself a lot, so I come here (and other places that mock people like Emily), see other people mocking fail and it makes me feel better to know there are people out there like me and it makes me keep doing what I'm doing. It's pathetic, I know, but it's how I deal with it.

If it makes you feel better, I'm shy too. I leave the house about once a month to meet up with friends and I'm just happy doing my own thing at home most of the time. I really hope things work out for you though, it sounds like you're trying to change your life around which sounds good. Just keep moving around and changing until you're satisfied with where you are and what you're doing, no matter how long it takes. It doesn't matter where or what as long as it feels right. You'll eventually find your calling and where your life should be, you just need to search for it. :)

As you know I went through a big gap when I was lonely and unhappy in Japan only a few weeks ago, treated like crap by someone I called a friend for 5 years and a time in my life I was meant to be happy so I feel more... connected to this blog, I guess, after experiencing a very similar thing you did in the same country. I knew about your experience obviously but after experiencing it myself, it just made me so much more sympathetic. (Although my 'friend' didn't go out and abandon me to have sex with random guys, she much preferred to ditch me at train stations and ignore me). With two girls though, I think there is always going to be some jealousy, and I actually suspect that she was jealous of me, as much as I don't want to sound like Emily. =/ I won't explain why unless someone asks at risk of sounding even more arrogant. I don't think I'm amazing or special and I only throw the jealousy card around if they make it REALLY obvious like she did. I was actually sexually harassed early into the trip (I still feel ashamed but I can speak about it now). When I came back, already feeling lonely and vulnerable, I was going to tell her but she was ignoring me even when I tried to talk to her, plus as mentioned I think she was jealous so I don't know if she wished it was her, I didn't want to be 'provoking' her more. (fyi: She did turn out to be completely nuts/weird though, so I'm glad I didn't tell her.) I just felt really alone that night and from then onwards. (I'm lucky I only had nightmares for 3 nights and it didn't affect me more). I'm guessing it was similar loneliness that you felt when Emily wasn't there with you. In a foreign country with no support from someone you considered close. The only support is across a big fucking ocean. It's a really horrible feeling but I can relate to you now. I wish I could've enjoyed Japan more because I loved it but I can't do much now. I have a lot of regret but I am glad I went.

This is so personal, I'm sorry. :( I kinda rambled on and I'm not sure if any of it is relevant.

I'm not sure what to do with the blog, honestly. I think it might just be a dry patch. I'm sure Emily will lose this band and come out with something new to get famous.

Edited at 2011-03-28 06:28 pm (UTC)

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nick .

From: raspberrysyrup
Date: Mar. 29th, 2011 09:45 am (UTC)
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that story of your time in japan is eerily parallel to mine, at least in regard to the whole loneliness aspect of it. i'd try to go out and meet people too but it's japan, and considering i had just gotten my lip pierced in harajuku (gay, i know, but it was cool at the time) i don't think my gaijin appeal was working to get anyone to talk to. i almost felt like going to some kabukicho bar and getting to talk to some yakuza instead, i got so desperate. instead i just spent my days and nights exploring, i'd go to the really poor parts of shinjuku and whatnot just to see some more real shit than trendy places everyone goes to, go shopping for my friends and hunt for random dojin cd's and whatnot on my list, and i did have conversations and meet enough nice girls to make me feel less isolated about it. i think i liked kabukicho the best. but anyway, the trip in memory was a betrayal because i wasn't expecting to be with emily 24/7 the whole time, but it's just about knowing you have support with you. we know the story blah blah blah. but like i told you at the time, two things really show you who a person really is: money and traveling. i'm glad you made it safe but i knew you would. being young these things will happen and it's better you learned this sort of lesson mostly unscathed, right?

i'm not looking to pour a sob story on anyone but an issue i always had growing up as a kid up to even now was a perpetual lack of any actual stability. i never stayed anywhere long enough to feel like it was home, have a room that evolved into something really lived-in and plastered with posters the way i always wanted, friendships that come from growing with others. once you move, even if you come back, it's severed and you start over again. sometimes i would come back and friends i had would have nothing to do with me anymore for whatever reason (not being into the same things for example). eventually i gave up along the way and stopped putting trust in anyone, became extremely isolated, but the internet was my way to be who i am. outside of it i felt like a porcelain shell because i had nobody and no reason to express myself. it helped me learn to develop relationships and what i liked about it was that it was constant and connected wherever i shuffled off to. pathetic and geeky, i know, but for me it rehabilitated a lot for me over time.

i turn 25 a month from now but i've grown a lot from those days. i'm more or less normal seeming, a little socially evasive, but nothing out of the blue from anyone else. shit i even became a halfway decent restaurant server so i don't want to give the idea i'm a suffering mute. i don't want to feel like i have to keep searching and moving because that leaves no time for growing. in another way, i crave it. i expect my new slate because as a kid i'd always get it and that part of it was liberating. if i don't get it, i feel like i subconsciously desire to escape and start again. nothing works. it's closer now but not quite there. if i do end up being goaded into recounting my silly heartbreak story from late '09 it'd express a vivid enough example of why i don't put trust in people (or rarely do at least).

now was that too personal? don't mind things like that. share whatever you're comfortable with. or ask me to delete it if you regret it lol.

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From: anonymous
Date: Mar. 30th, 2011 01:08 am (UTC)
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I can understand how you feel a lot.

I'm living in Japan and have a hard time talking to people in general... Even if I try talking to someone, they assume I can't speak Japanese (even if I speak in Japanese) and give me short choppy one word answers until I give up. It's rather lonely.

I moved around as a kid quite frequently (I went to over 10 schools, and my 6th grade year I went to 3 schools in that year alone). I can totally relate to the feeling of not having lived someone for a long time and not having that "lived-in" feeling in a room. Making friends was really tough too and I'm still very socially inept just because after the 10th or so school I started giving up.

Anyways, just wanted to let you know you're not alone for all it's worth.

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From: anonymous
Date: Mar. 28th, 2011 07:29 pm (UTC)
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I haven't been on here for about a year now. I used to come here everyday to read the comments. At first it was obviously Emily that brought me here but the people and the conversation about other stuff kept me coming back.

I think it would be good to have entries about other things. There were a lot of nice people here but I don't know how many of them are still around. I really don't want to see this journal just get deleted. If nothing else it's nice to come here and find out how you're doing.

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From: raspberrysyrup
Date: Mar. 29th, 2011 09:51 am (UTC)
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i miss it too. the conversations. shit even the trolling or arguments from those who wanted to corner me were fun.

other entries may be a good idea but i'm lost on where to go with it. i could just express my feelings on something remotely japan-related to at least stir the pot, especially if it can find a way to be related to emily-like shit. i have no idea how many people still check here from time to time, but the only reason i kept this going were for the comments. i learned a lot from them and like i shared, even met people off the internet that sometimes grew into friendships. i've benefited from it more than i could ever ask. i would like to see if more positive and interesting things could come from here before i pulled the plug. so maybe we will try. thank you for your comment too, i appreciate your input and concern for my well-being. most of the time i just felt like a faceless conductor because it's you guys that make it interesting.

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From: anonymous
Date: Mar. 29th, 2011 01:15 am (UTC)
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Nick, do what you have to, but keep this journal open. You don't necessarily have to comment on a regular basis, obviously. I think it's a good idea to have this around because emiry's trying to brush a lot under the rug lately. Meh.. whatever.

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From: anonymous
Date: Mar. 29th, 2011 08:38 am (UTC)
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I agree with this. If this journal closed Emily could censor any information about any kind of shady thing going on. It's good to have this as a resource so more people don't get scammed.

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From: anonymous
Date: Mar. 29th, 2011 07:15 am (UTC)
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I come here for discussion and news regarding Emily because I used to do internet things (won't say what) on 2ch etc, and was often compared with her. It really made me frustrated, and I guess seeing that she's failing now makes me feel like "you can compare all you want, but at least I'm not failing in life".

Also, I've come to like the people that comment here and enjoy the discussion. Most of the people here have similar interests in Japanese culture and it makes me feel a sense of closeness.

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From: anonymous
Date: Apr. 2nd, 2011 07:37 am (UTC)
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I come here for many reasons, talking and learning and just in general shooting the shit. Actually, just as an interesting sidenote, there's a user on Youtube called mikio1244 who responded to one of my comments on one of Emily's older videos asking me why I hated her and calling me lazy and bitchy. I responded and he responded back, but I didn't even bother to read it. I just blocked him. Obviously, even though he tried to make me out to be some lazy schmo he seems to camp on comments. There are hundreds of comments on Ms Emily that aren't flattering, is he going to go after all of them too lol?

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From: anonymous
Date: Apr. 2nd, 2011 02:29 pm (UTC)
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http://imgur.com/xL65w

anyone know if this picture is recent? It's from her facebook page.

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nick .

From: raspberrysyrup
Date: Apr. 3rd, 2011 12:03 am (UTC)
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it looks extremely familiar like it's years old to me but it could just be she took it recently at the same place. looks like her dad's area where he lives. i think she looks disturbingly masculine in it.

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From: anonymous
Date: Apr. 3rd, 2011 12:13 am (UTC)
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Wow if I didn't know better I'd swear she was a guy in that pic.

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dani

From: ethersol
Date: Apr. 3rd, 2011 03:14 pm (UTC)
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i say, keep the blog open.

i'm not sure what you should write about, as that is entirely up to you. perhaps make it a mixture of rl and emily stuff? i don't know...in the end, if you want to let go of the emily ordeal, that is also fine.

i would totally understand this. i read your journal for the personal entries, and to be updated on anything emily related.

now i don't really give a shit about that girl. she sounds like she is failing hard anyway. in the end nick, do with this journal what you want, i think everyone here wouldn't mind (except if you deleted it :P).

in fact, i'd personally enjoy reading more about your personal insights. :)

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From: anonymous
Date: Apr. 4th, 2011 07:59 pm (UTC)
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http://rockoutjapan.com/2011/03/japan-nite-2011-sxsws-annual-japanese-showcase-leaves-austin-screaming-banzai/

An article written about oh sunshine fail at sxsw.

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From: anonymous
Date: Apr. 7th, 2011 06:53 am (UTC)
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I found this blog because of Emily at first, but now I'm more interested in your thoughts and attitudes to be honest; you seem like a wise person and I can relate in that I'm also a little kooky and shy.
This is my first time commenting, but I've been following this blog for years. I never learnt how to to use Livejournal which is why I don't partake in the discussions; despite this I read all the comments. Many lols were had (:
You can just update this when ever you want to. No one is pressuring you. Emily probably doesn't have any impact on your life outside of this blog, but it's still interesting to read how the delusion of supposed "fame" can change a person.
I say: keep the blog ^_^

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THE AGE OF YAOI. That is all.

From: pinkylemon
Date: Dec. 22nd, 2011 10:59 am (UTC)
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Please keep this journal open. I've been gradually reading the old entries and learning about this saga. You're a great writer and very interesting to read. I'm certainly interested in anything else you have to say about Emily, etc. I hope there will be more gossip about her soon, which I'm sure makes me seem pretty lame. This is really the only reason I come to livejournal these days.

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nick .

From: raspberrysyrup
Date: Dec. 22nd, 2011 12:37 pm (UTC)
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i imagine it'll be here for a very long time, it's doubtful emily and i will reconcile in the next few lifetimes, but that's up to her. i really appreciate the compliments and feel good knowing people are still coming across this weirdness, finding amusement, perhaps learning things too. that's why it's here after all so thank you.

as far as contributing more entries and writing here, i have little faith that will revive itself once more, because although i've lost interest in emily years ago, it feels officially over since she removed and privatized all her old videos. time has a way of changing things but it remains to be seen.

i'd like to continue writing if you and others genuinely like to read, but there's no material to draw upon from her angle. at the same time, if you have suggestions, let me know i can answer things, give an opinion, and ramble onward as i usually do. it doesn't even have to be about emily but it's warm to write things that people will read once in a while. if not that's cool too. thanks again for the comment!

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THE AGE OF YAOI. That is all.

From: pinkylemon
Date: Dec. 28th, 2011 12:53 am (UTC)
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Thanks for your response. And you're welcome. :) I'm not sure if you wrote about this in detail already, as I haven't read all your entries yet, but perhaps you could write about your trip to Japan (aside from the Emily drama)? Or your view of Japanese culture or something along those lines. As someone who hasn't been there yet, I'm always interested in the experiences of those who have traveled to Japan. Just a thought. Or you could write about anything you like, though I'm not sure how much of your personal life you want to reveal here.

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nick .

From: raspberrysyrup
Date: Jan. 7th, 2012 09:17 am (UTC)
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in all honesty there isn't much flash behind my hobbling around tokyo. i would've liked to check out shimokitazawa or head off to kansai but i'll have to save it for next time. the post-emily time i had spent was mostly exploring the slums of shinjuku, shopping for friends wherever i could find their requests, and waddling around kabukicho upon nightfall. between these activities were just me playing at the arcade, pachinko, and what have you... a good chance to strike up a conversation and have a drink at a bar with yakuza didn't come up in a 'safe' way, otherwise that was my goal.

i'm not any expert on japanese culture so my ideas would be more worthless than not and shouldn't be taken seriously. the one thing that surprised me when i first visited, especially from shinjuku station from narita, was that there wasn't as much english help as one would expect or depend on for a place seen as unusually americanized. if you don't have a comfortable grasp of helpful and basic japanese then i'd have to believe it's a pain in the ass to do things and get around comfortably, even around tokyo where it's the most gaijin-friendly, less you congregate with other visiting foreigners which there are many in the usual areas. getting around the trains is really straightforward though; where i live we have the bart (bay area rapid transit) and it's modeled after the tokyo lines and there's no unique magic about getting around. if you live in the usa (it's probably available elsewhere) get a rail pass, whatever it's called, otherwise you can't get one in japan. that's something i should've invested in before i went but i was in the middle of moving from the bay area to southern california and it was short-notice.

if there is one thing about japan i appreciated, it was everyone following the same social norms, keeping to themselves, observing manners, no loud obnoxiousness, and the protocol surrounding each and every imaginable situation (formal or informal). it's not the most exciting or interesting thing to study before you go but it's really the most important, in my opinion. japan is really just another country but it's a place that takes seriously its concepts of social conformity within cultural norms and manners unlike western countries. if you prepare to go to japan, time would be much better spent learning the bare realities and necessities to get by and understand the cultural rules before you go, than projecting your own ideas or fantasies about it just because it's a foreign country.

also you cannot smoke anywhere in akihabara, otherwise you will have to pay a ticket immediately. i learned this the hard way so i pass my wisdom to others.

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THE AGE OF YAOI. That is all.

From: pinkylemon
Date: Jan. 9th, 2012 09:29 pm (UTC)
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I appreciate you sharing your insight. I'm not planning on visiting Japan any time soon, but I'd like to someday, even though my "otaku" days have long since passed. I definitely realize many people have a warped and glorified vision of Japan, based on things I've studied at my university and on my own. I think that shook me from my fandom haze. Though that is surprising to me about Tokyo. One of my friends visited there with one other person (not a group tour) and said it was surprisingly easy to get around, despite not knowing Japanese. I am familiar with the subways, as I live in LA, but I've never been to the Bay Area to ride the BART. So you have to buy a rail pass in the States, which you can then use in Japan? Thank you for the advice. That's definitely something important to remember about Japan (or really any country, I suppose).

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nick .

From: raspberrysyrup
Date: Jan. 10th, 2012 12:45 am (UTC)
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maybe it is easy enough without the language skills, but when emily and i first reached shinjuku station from narita, i noticed a few hapless foreigners dizzied and lost in anxiety. walking around meiji shrine a couple days later to tour the cosplayers and street acts, this nice american guy about emily's age made an attempt to group himself with us but she turned him down for some reason. he also seemed a bit lost and overwhelmed relaying this idea he didn't know where to go or how to get there if he figured it out. i saw that here and there quite a bit and what they all had in common was not having a confident grasp of understanding or asking things, and this was in tokyo which is as foreign-friendly as it gets. if it's not a language issue then maybe it's just because they were hit in the face with reality that japan isn't all just an akiharaba cosplay wonderland, and whatever japanese they did know wasn't good enough to feel confident using.

at the time my japanese wasn't fluent by any means but i didn't encounter any problem getting around, talking to people, asking directions, or reading what i needed. i got to chill with and talk to the owner of the sexpot revenge fashion line and he told me where to get a piercing (which i did ~_~). if i could do that easy then anything else as a tourist is easy enough. you can't really expect anyone off the street to help you in english (unless they're white i guess) or even accommodate you tugging at them randomly without following japanese manners, but this is all i assumed before and when i went. then again when i was trying to make it back to narita in a huffing panic since i knew it'd be down to the wire, one of the shijuku station employees waved me off when i asked what platform my train was coming. it wasn't quite "go home american pig" but japan is very different from what i imagine many american kids would expect. in my head then, i figured foreigners can be intimidating and seen as obnoxious if they don't at least attempt to huddle under japanese norms, and i just prepared for the worst with that in mind. it's not really that bad or anything though, maybe just the older people or outside tokyo metro can give you shit but japanese are very warm people. i'm rambling................

i hear a lot about this la subway but even though i'm from there i've never taken it lol. all my life i grew up hearing la public transportation is shit because at the time it was pretty much engineered to get around by car and freeway. where does it go? i know there's one train that goes straight up, through inglewood at least, but i've never taken union station except to drop off my gf when she visited.

before i force your eyes on their knees against this unappealing mass of text, i don't know very much about the rail pass other than what i was told when i ta'd this one japanese class a few years ago and what i told you. if you're at least planning to use it to travel beyond tokyo it'd be essential and worth the investment if you manage to dig up info about it when the time comes. otherwise yeah, what i was told by a student at the time when they went, having married some japanese girl young, you have to get that from the states before you head off overseas because i assume it's a deal for tourists only.

i have a very nice friend who used to post and translate things on this lj that's been living and studying in japan for a while, so if you have any important questions, i can hit her up since she actually knows things and has the most excellent grasp and nuanced understanding of japan compared to any foreigner i've known. sorry for typing so much! i've been in a bed-ridden time void for a while because i've been really ill, and i woke up starving to talk to people i guess lol. excuse me if none of what i posted has any educational value whatsoever.

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THE AGE OF YAOI. That is all.

From: pinkylemon
Date: Jan. 12th, 2012 07:04 am (UTC)
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Hey, it's quite alright. Thank you for taking the time to give me such a detailed and thoughtful response. :)

I can totally picture that happening, with the dazed and confused foreign tourists. But, as you've explained, if you have the confidence, you can probably get around without much trouble. I couldn't even feign to know Japanese (beyond a few terms), so I'm sure I would be one of those bewildered gaijin wandering around in near panic. Yes, I'm sure some of their confusion was due to believing Japan would be the same as it is in all of their anime or something.

I've read (from others who've written about going to Japan) that the Japanese seem to feel awkward when approached by foreigners trying to speak English with them. But other tales have revealed their boldness when suddenly going up to foreigners and testing out their English. Perhaps that guy at the train station had no grasp of the English language (or he assumed you couldn't speak intelligible Japanese), so he waved you off because he didn't even want to try? Cultural misunderstandings of social norms would definitely be something to ruffle the Japanese's feathers. But a lot of otaku kids seem to be oblivious to that. I have heard the Japanese are very kind and polite, but also that some of the politeness is disingenuous. Did you experience any of that? That's awesome about the Sex Pot Revenge owner. Sounds like you had some neat experiences, despite your difficulties. I take it you continued to study Japanese?

Oh wow, you really should take the LA subway. It is very nice, having been built only about 20 years ago (esp. compared to the NYC one). I'm originally from Ohio and only moved to Hollywood about a year ago, so all this public transit stuff is fairly new to me (I used to drive). The subway goes to a number of places, but I haven't been to all of them. The blue line goes all the way to Long Beach. The red line goes from NoHo to Union Station. We joke that the green line doesn't really go anywhere of importance, as it is scarcely used by anyone. The gold line goes from Atlantic to Sierra Madre Villa (through Little Tokyo and Chinatown). The purple line is weird and kind of branches off somewhere, lol. Sorry, it's hard for me to explain them all, as even I don't use the subway on a daily basis. And when I use it, I'm often going to China Town, Little Tokyo or somewhere downtown.

Very interesting about the rail pass. I never would have guessed something like that, so thanks for the important tip! I'll try to keep that in mind if and when I ever travel to Japan. :)

Hey, thanks for the offer! I'll let you know if I have any more specific questions, though I don't want to pester you or anything. I'm glad to know you have a friend that sounds like the polar opposite of Emily, lol...Well I hope you're feeling better! Again, thank you for all of this information. Would it be ok if I added you on facebook? If you want to keep your lj and private life separate, I completely understand.

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